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Jeg har taget kreatin i de sidste 3 uger, men igår glemte jeg at tage mine daglige 2 gram. Betyder det så at jeg skal på loadingsfasen igen, eller kan jeg bare fortsætte med at tage 2 gram om dagen??
 
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Hvis du skynder dig at tage de 2 gram, behøver du ikke en ny loading fase ! Men det er som du selv er inde på bedst at tage hver eneste dag !

Udover det vil jeg mene at 2gram om dagen er for lidt. jeg ville holde en lille pause. Starte på ny loading fase og tage 5g dagligt !
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læs her om ikk andet:

http://bodyforum.dk/viewtopic.php?t=903

der er en lille diskussion igang om næsten det samme ;)
NÅ! Nu ska´ jeg ikk spilde jeres tid med med min gamle signatur der bare vil spilde jeres tid.. Så nu.. er der den her.. Som SLET!!! ikk spilder nogen tid!! Ikk mere spildtid!!! SCROLL VIDERE!!!

 
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det er du sprænger en enkelt dag over sker der intet ved, så er det brae på den igen hurtigst muligt!
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Noget jeg har haft stor succes med er AST metoden at tage kreatin på: 3 dage på, 3 dage af, 20-25 gram om dagen i 5 g doser på, MASSER af vand (drik det vand du normalt ville drikke OG drik en halv liter hver gang du tager kreatin).

Super resultater og pga af at man kører mikro cycles, kan man blive på i uendelig lang tid, så ikke noget med at køre 12 uger på, 6 uger af.
 
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Ja, hvis man er tilhænger af at man skal have en off-periode... Hehe...

Men har du et link til, hvor man kan læse om de minicycles der, for skal snart starte op igen, har lige fået 500g bodyman kreatin, som står og venter!!

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tja det med en off periode kan vel diskuteres.....

mon ikke det er bedre at skabe et stabilt flow af kreatin i kroppen over en periode, end at gå op og ned hele tiden?
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Optimizing the Anabolic Effects of Micronized Creatine Part-2

by Paul Cribb, B.H.Sci HMS
AST Director of Research

The traditional recommended dose regime for creatine supplementation can actually short-circuit the enormous potential gains that can be obtained from this supplement. In this article, I will detail a specific dosage strategy and cover the key points on how to use Micronized Creatine to obtain (dare I say it) drug-like gains in strength and muscle mass. But first, here is a quick refresher of the reasons why the traditional dosing patterns for creatine may actually be counter-productive to obtaining the best results from this supplement.

The traditional way of using creatine involves a 5 to 7 day loading phase of 20 to 25 grams a day followed by a daily maintenance dose of 2 to 5 grams of creatine per day. However, this basic “scatter-gun” approach might get the job done but probably destroys 70-80% of the potential gains that could be obtained. Here are some research-based reasons why athletes have to change the way they view creatine supplementation if they want the best effects possible.


Achieving a high concentration of creatine within muscle is essential to triggering a powerful anabolic effect at the cellular level. However, it is clear that the traditional dosage pattern fails to maintain high muscle creatine concentrations over a longer period of time (6 to 12 weeks).[1-3]


Excessive loading (the traditional way) may cause creatine saturation outside the cell that prevents effective muscle uptake for weeks or even months! [4]


A small maintenance dose is futile at maintaining high muscle creatine concentrations. Using a small dose after loading ensures that high muscle creatine concentrations disappear within 6 weeks![5]
What is the solution?

The solution is Micronized Creatine cycling. Micronized Creatine cycling is a strategy I’ve designed to maximize the uptake of creatine by muscle cells to create and maintain ultra-high muscle creatine concentrations.

Micronized Creatine cycling is designed to create a synergy between intense training and muscle cell metabolism that will trigger a potent anabolic response at the cellular level. Over a short period of time this powerful anabolic response provides rapid strength and muscle mass gains. If you’ve used creatine in the past and have been disappointed with the results, you will definitely benefit enormously from this strategy. If you’ve obtained good results from creatine in the past, hold onto your seats as this strategy will provide you with phenomenal gains, every time you supplement with Micronized Creatine.

Step 1


Use Micronized Creatine for three days only. The daily dosage will range from 15-25 grams/day depending upon the size of the individual. Bodybuilders that are 180 pounds or heavier are advised to use the higher end of this scale (20 to 25 grams per day).


Take two of 5 gram servings as in The Bracketing Method


Take another 5 grams of pure Micronized Creatine within the 3-hour post-workout period as in The Anabolic Nutrient Timing Factor.


Another one or two servings of pure Micronized Creatine can be taken with a Ny-Tro PRO-40 shake (mixed with 15-20 oz water) in the morning or evening.
Step 2


No creatine supplement is used for the next three days. On these “non-creatine” days, substitute DGC for Creatine HSC during workouts.
Step 3


Perform step 1 followed by step 2 repeatedly to form a three days-on/three days-off cycling pattern throughout your 8 week Max-OT program.


After your 8 week Max-OT program finishes, take a one week break from training. In the last three days of this rest week, commence your Micronized creatine cycling strategy so that you start your next Max-OT program with optimal muscle creatine levels.
Based on the science regarding creatine supplementation and transport into muscle, this strategy should ensure maintenance of high muscle creatine concentrations all the time, while preventing creatine receptor down regulation in muscle cells.

The brief (3-day) loading phase serves at precise purpose; it maximizes creatine uptake into muscle without de-sensitizing or down regulating creatine receptor/transporters (located on the cell membrane). Three days without creatine supplementation should be just enough time to re-sensitize creatine transporters but not allow muscle creatine stores to decline.

What about non-training days?

Bodybuilders often ask me if they should use creatine on their non-training days. My answer is that it is imperative to follow this three days-on/three days-off cycling strategy regardless of whether or not it is a training day. During tough training programs the body is in a constant state of repair and recuperation; rest days are the days that allow recovery to take place. Creatine supplementation stimulates the cellular mechanisms that enable muscles to recover and become bigger and stronger. Therefore, the Micronized creatine cycling strategy I’ve outlined must not be interrupted regardless of whether or not it is a training or rest day. In the long term this strategy will promote rapid cellular recovery that must occur during tough training programs.

On non-training days take Micronized creatine after meals or with liquid meals such as Ny-Tro PRO-40. Just remember to stick to your chosen daily dose. Also remember that creatine needs water to exert its anabolic effects on muscle (it draws water into the cell to trigger protein synthesis and muscle growth). Therefore, along with every 5 gram dose of Micronized creatine 15 to 20 oz of water should be consumed.

So there you have it. A simple strategy that is incredibly effective. I urge anyone who uses creatine to try Micronized Creatine Cycling. The positive feedback that I’ve received from bodybuilders so far has been awesome.

References:

1. Volek et al. Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise 31: 1147-1156, 1999.

2. Cribb et al. Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise 35: S400, A2239, 2003

3. Cribb et al. Presented at The Australian Association of Exercise and Sports Science Conference, April, 2004

4. Guerrero-Ontivers, M.L. and Wallimann, T. Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry. 184: 427-437, 1998.

5. Van Loon et al. Clinical Science 104:153–162. 2003


Fra http://www.AST-SS.com.

Problemet med at blive ved med at supplere med kreatin, er at man nedregulerer optagelsen af det efter et stykke tid. Nogle forslår derfor en loading fase efter en 2 måneders tid igen, men denne metode (ASTs) synes jeg klart er at foretrække.
 
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kharnal ja man anbefaler selvfølgelig at holde pause efter ca 2 måneder.... også vente lidt med at gå på igen.....
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