i denne interessante artikel http://www.tmuscle.com/readArticle.do?id=1268956
står der således:

"Situation A: Go on an all-out bulking phase, gain 25 pounds over a period of six months.

Around 5-10 of these pounds will be muscle (12 at the most) and the rest will be from glycogen storage (2-4 pounds) and fat (10-15 pounds). To shed the excess fat, you have to go on a severe diet. If you never cheat and are super strict, you can hope for one or two pounds of fat loss per week without losing muscle. So in the best case scenario, it'll take you anywhere from 6 to 12 weeks to lose the fat.

However, fat loss isn't linear. The body adapts to caloric restriction and ''falling off the wagon'' will happen to most. So in "real life," losing the gained fat (if you don't want to lose muscle) will actually require 12 to 20 weeks of dieting. So over a 9 to 11 month period you gained around seven pounds of muscle (if you didn't lose anything while dieting). That gives you an average of 0.6 to 0.75 pounds of muscle per month. Reported over a year, it comes up to a total of seven to nine pounds.

Situation B: Ingest a caloric excess, but just enough to give your body the required amount of nutrients for optimal muscle growth. You can still manage a gain of around 1.5 pounds of muscle per month, but the fat gain will be much lower.

So after the same initial six months, you also gained 5-10 pounds but only 3-5 pounds of fat. So you really have to diet only for around a month to lose what you gained. So you gain around seven pounds of muscle over a seven month period, or one pound per month for a total of around 12 pounds reported over 12 months.

Some observations regarding this example:

A) In situation B, you're actually gaining more muscle over a year even though you aren't gaining as much weight.

B) In situation A, you have to diet for 3-5 months out of the year to lose the gained fat, versus 4-6 weeks for situation B. Very few people like to eat a restricted diet. So having to diet for only one month versus 3-5 months is a big advantage if you ask me!

C) Since you don't have to diet as hard in situation B, the risk of muscle loss is much lower than in situation A. In fact, because of the possibility of losing a significant amount of muscle during the cutting phase, you could very well end up with no muscle gain after a year of bulking and then cutting."

men fik ikke helt fat på det der står i punkt C)
mener de at hvis man cutter over en længere periode(fx 6 måneder) i stedet for et hurtigt cut hvor du opnår samme resultat bare hurtigere, så kan man ende med slet ikke at have gainet noget muskelmasse pga det har gået for langsomt

Det de mener er, at hvis du laver giga bulk og så skal smide 10-15 pund fedt, så er der en stor chance for at du også mister alt for meget muskelmasse under den diæt. Læs: Brug option B, lad være at gigant grovfråde, spis et lille overskud.

nåår på den måde
så der er ikke den store forskel i tab af muskelmasse på et cut på 5 måneder, eller et cut på 2 måneder hvor dit mål er at smide fx 7 kg ?

på de 5 måneder tager man det stille og roligt og spiser sådan nogle lunde hvor man måske et par gange om ugen kommer i overskud (bulk), det er der ikke noget galt i vel ?
fx 5 dages cut, 2 dages bulk ( da man ikke altid kan styre mad trængen hehe )

Jo pointen er netop at jo længere tid dit cut varer, jo større er risikoen for tab af muskelmasse.

Thraundil skrev:Jo pointen er netop at jo længere tid dit cut varer, jo større er risikoen for tab af muskelmasse.

så man kan ikke have 2 bulk dage og 5 cut dage på en uge fx? det vil forsinke cuttet jo.

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merijaan skrev:

Thraundil skrev:Jo pointen er netop at jo længere tid dit cut varer, jo større er risikoen for tab af muskelmasse.

så man kan ikke have 2 bulk dage og 5 cut dage på en uge fx? det vil forsinke cuttet jo.

Det har været oppe og vende nogle gange. Søg lidt på forum.
Hovedparten af de argumenterende personer mener at de bedste resultater opnås ved længere tids lean cut/bulk.

Biggalow skrev:

merijaan skrev:

Thraundil skrev:Jo pointen er netop at jo længere tid dit cut varer, jo større er risikoen for tab af muskelmasse.

så man kan ikke have 2 bulk dage og 5 cut dage på en uge fx? det vil forsinke cuttet jo.

Det har været oppe og vende nogle gange. Søg lidt på forum.
Hovedparten af de argumenterende personer mener at de bedste resultater opnås ved længere tids lean cut/bulk.

har tømt hele forummet for information mener jeg , følger altid med