Nis skrev:Jeg taler skam pænt til lystfiskeren, der var intet ondt ment i mit indlæg.
Det med at spise mange gange er åbenbart en stor myte, som endda er noteret i artikelarkivet her på siden, Kosten fra a-å
"Spis 5-8 måltider, dette giver den mest stabile tilførsel af næringsstoffer, for den mest
optimale opbygning af muskel og forhindrer stresshormoner og humørsvingninger. "Hvis artikelarkivet er noget, må den da repræsentere den store konsensus på siden, og siden du ikke er enig med det må du vel komme med noget. Jeg har ingen bevisbyrde.
poul hansen skrev:
Du kan få nogle få gode og så ellers takke pænt bagefter for at jeg lærer dig noget nyt.
Come on, er du seriøs? Du behøver ikke at komme med dine kilder, forsat god dag.
Ja Nis, jeg er seriøs. Din måde at spørge på var for mig provokerende.
Hvad mener du er fordelen ved at spise mange små måltider?
Det har du stadigvæk ikke bidraget med?
Når jeg taler om konsensus mener jeg mere i det etablerede videnskabelige miljø, ikke hvad folk er blevet enige om på bb.dk.
Det er en ting du skal lære, selv i bøger og artikler skrevet af professorer og andre højt uddannede og specialiserede videnskabsmænd vil der snige sig personlige holdninger og dårlige referencer ind. Du skulle vide hvor mange bogus referencer jeg har fundet i pubmed indekserede artikler.
Gode referencer er videnskabelige artikler af en vis kvalitet. En artikel på et website kan ikke bruges til meget som valid reference desværre. Slet ikke hvis man taler videnskabelig evidens.
her er en lille lettilgængelig ting om måltidsfrekvens og muskelopbygning.
THE EFFECT OF MEAL FREQUENCY ON BODY COMPOSITION DURING 12-WEEKS OF STRENGTH TRAINING
Hansen Øyvind1, Fostervold Mathisen Therese2, Raastad
Truls 2
(Institute of Basic Medical Sciences, University of Oslo1,
Norwegian School of Sport Sciences2, Norway)
Human trials on the effect of meal frequency on body composition are scarce. Short-term studies show increased rate of protein synthesis immediately after intake of amino acids [1], and frequent meals are shown to aid in the preservation of lean body mass when dieting [2]. Consequently it could be hypothesised that in response to strength training, more frequent meals will give larger muscle mass accumulation and lower fat mass (FM) than fewer meals. The purpose of this study was to compare the effects of 3 vs. 6meals per day on changes in body composition in young men and women performing strength training over 12 weeks. Men (n=33) and women (n=15) aged 21 to 35 with at least one year of previous strength training experience were randomly assigned to either a 6 meals a day group or a 3 meals a day group. The prescribed total dietary intake in both groups was equal and calculated to give a positive energy balance of approximately 1200 KJ/day, a protein intake of 1.5-1.7 g/kg/day and a carbohydrate intake of 5-7 g/kg/day. During the training period the dietary intake was controlled by repeated 24-hours recalls. All participants performed the same strength training program, training four times per week, giving each muscle group one heavy session and one light session per week. In the heavy sessions, training intensity varied between 10 and 3 RM sets, and 3-6 sets were performed in each exercise. Determination of body composition was performed with DEXA at the beginning of and immediately after the training period. A total of 16 men and 11 women completed the project. After multiple regression analysis the 3 meal group had a significant greater gain in lean body mass (LBM) than the 6 meal group when adjusted for gender and energy intake (p=0.04), when adjusted for gender and protein intake (p=0.03), and when adjusted for gender, protein intake, carbohydrate intake and fat intake* (p=0.01). (*: Fat intake in g/kg body weight/day showed significance on LBM, p=0.03). No significant differences in regional changes in LBM were observed, although there was a tendency towards a greater gain in the three meal group. There were no significant differences in change in fat mass (FM) between the groups, but a tendency towards a greater gain in the three meal group, 7.33% (-5.23, 19.90), p=0.24. The three meal group had a 2.87%(0.62, 5.12) larger weight gain than the six meal group, p=0.01.The participants had a 2.31% (0.83, 3.79), gain in bone mineral density of the spine during the twelve weeks of strength training, p<0.01, but there were no differences between the groups. In this study, three meals per day resulted in larger muscle gain from strength training than six meals per day over a period of twelve weeks. The reason why 3 meals a day was superior to 6 meals a day in this study needs further investigation. More long-term studies are needed to determine the optimal meal frequency for gain in LBM from strength training.
http://www.duo.uio.no/publ/basalfag/2008/71651/Thexeffectxofxmealxfrequencyxonxbodyxcompositionxduringxxx..pdfEn fin analyse af studiet der også viser problemer ved dette studie.
http://screamsfromtheunderground.blogspot.com/search/label/Research%20WatchHer er der også lidt interessant:
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/81/1/3Nu er mit interesse og vidensområde ikke primært kosten, der følger jeg bare perifiært med, men det er ret klart at mange af kostråd en bodybuilder giverer dårlige ligesom argumentationen, der ofte er baseret på misforståede påstande, er fejlbehæftet
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