Til gengæld så synes jeg at bivirkningerne ved decideret ketogene diæter kan være lidt voldsomme, selvom jeg synes det er lidt uklart hvor reel sandsynligheden for ketoacidose egentlig er. Og ketoacidose eller ej så er det jo ret skrappe vilkår man skal underlægge sig for at komme i ketose.

Men det afhænger jo selvfølgelig også af ens mål. Pt justerer jeg kun indtaget minimalt for at holde mig i en vægtklasse, men det er selvfølgelig noget andet hvis man skal være 200% hakket og på scenen i noget BB konkurrence.

J-S-O skrev:

Til gengæld så synes jeg at bivirkningerne ved decideret ketogene diæter kan være lidt voldsomme, selvom jeg synes det er lidt uklart hvor reel sandsynligheden for ketoacidose egentlig er. Og ketoacidose eller ej så er det jo ret skrappe vilkår man skal underlægge sig for at komme i ketose.

Men det afhænger jo selvfølgelig også af ens mål. Pt justerer jeg kun indtaget minimalt for at holde mig i en vægtklasse, men det er selvfølgelig noget andet hvis man skal være 200% hakket og på scenen i noget BB konkurrence.

Sandsynligheden er måske ikke særlig stor for ketoacidose, men det er såmænd også ligemeget? Jeg mener ikke at have set noget der taler for ketose diæter, så hvorfor udsætte sig for sløvhed, hovedpine og andre ubehageligheder...

The Carbohydrate Restriction Rat Pack, led by Dr. Jeff Volek, held what turned out to be an almost three-hour session on the latest research regarding carbohydrate restriction and low carb diets.

Here's the quick and dirty:

When you cut carbs, you'll see greater weight loss, improved insulin sensitivity, three times the abdominal fat loss (as shown in a new study by Dr. Volek), and improved vascular function (move over arginine).
If you're insulin resistant, you'll get even better results (compared to non-resistant folks) from carbohydrate restriction in the areas of weight loss and insulin sensitivity.
Ketogenic diets, or a fancy way of saying very low carbohydrate diets, are more effective at increasing good cholesterol (HDL) than any of the current recommendations, such as exercise, smoking cessation, weight loss, or omega-3 supplementation.
If you refuse to restrict your carbs, then you need to at least change the type of carbs you eat. If you're sawing through a French baguette, it's time to focus on legumes, fruits, and vegetables while minimizing those grains and starches.
Dr. Volek shared the results from a recent clinical trial that he oversaw at the University of Connecticut which looked at the effect of low fat vs. low carb dieting with and without weight training. The low carb diet groups lost more weight than the low fat groups. But the low carb diet only group (no weight training) lost over three pounds of muscle, while the low carb diet group that did lift weights lost 1.3 pounds more fat and gained almost a pound of muscle. The bottom line is that weight training is important for the preservation of muscle, even in the presence of an increased protein intake.

Ketogenic diets, or a fancy way of saying very low carbohydrate diets, are more effective at increasing good cholesterol (HDL) than any of the current recommendations, such as exercise, smoking cessation, weight loss, or omega-3 supplementation.

Friche skrev:

Ketogenic diets, or a fancy way of saying very low carbohydrate diets, are more effective at increasing good cholesterol (HDL) than any of the current recommendations, such as exercise, smoking cessation, weight loss, or omega-3 supplementation.

Bare lige for at få begreberne på plads, så er en CKD jo ikke bare et smart måde at sige "very low carbohydrate diet" på. Pointen ved CKD kure er jo netop timingen af kulhydraterne så man opnår ketosestadiet, og hvis man bare køre lowcarb og spreder carbsene udover hele ugen så ryger ideen jo helt væk. Og for at tilpasse diæten til en der træner foreslår man som regel max 3-5 dage af ketose inden man carber op igen. Hvis man er i ketose for længe vil kroppen æde musklerne og man ender i noget Atkins diet agtigt som overhovedet ikke egner sig som diæt for folk der træner.